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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: Battery Technology |
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Nissan to (finally) spend funds on battery technology and hybrids - starting with the following joint venture with NEC:
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Nissan-NEC to make lithium-ion batteries
Sunday May 18, 11:09 pm ET
By Yuri Kageyama, AP Business Writer
Nissan-NEC joint venture to invest US$115 million to mass produce lithium-ion batteries
TOKYO (AP) -- Nissan's joint venture with electronics maker NEC Corp. will invest 12 billion yen (US$115 million; euro74 million) to start mass-producing lithium-ion batteries -- a technology widely viewed as key for next-generation green cars.
Nissan Motor Co. Executive Vice President Carlos Tavares told reporters Monday the Japanese automaker wants to be a global leader in "zero-emission vehicles."
Lithium-ion batteries are now more common in laptops and other gadgets, although all the world's automakers are working on applying the batteries for their cars.
Nissan's joint venture called Automotive Energy Supply Corp. plans to make advanced lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles, hybrids and fuel cells -- all important technology to reduce pollution as well as global warming gases.
"Nissan firmly believes the ultimate solution for sustainable mobility lies in zero-emission vehicles," Tavares said at a Tokyo hotel.
A plant for the batteries, set to be running by 2009, will have annual production capacity of 65,000, and starting capacity of 13,000, Nissan said. The investment will cover three years, it said.
Tokyo-based Nissan has been sometimes criticized as falling behind Japanese rivals such as Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. in ecological technology.
Toyota has a big hit with its gas-electric hybrid, Prius, which has already crossed the 1 million sales mark worldwide. Honda also has its own hybrid and fuel-cell models.
Nissan has said it will introduce an electric vehicle in the U.S. and Japan, as well as its own hybrid, in 2010.
By 2012, Nissan plans to mass-market electric vehicles to consumers globally. It is also planning to make available on a wide scale zero-emission vehicles in Israel and Denmark in 2011. |
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| nodoodahs wrote: | | ... If oil falls below $80 – still a quadrupling of price over less than a decade – and batteries reduce in cost only 10% or so, what happens? ... |
NYMEX crude 83.53 as I type this. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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Combine that with the GM capitulation of putting Hummer on the auction block, and you might as well call a long-term top in oil and gas prices right here. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets.
If oil falls below $80 – still a quadrupling of price over less than a decade – and batteries reduce in cost only 10% or so, what happens?
Does technology work to reduce prices only in batteries? Or would technology not be a possible culprit in reducing oil prices? Increased costs of energy and materials impacts the production of batteries as well.
Batteries aren't a clean technology. Pollution of landfills and/or recycling costs have to be considered, plus we burn a lot of coal and natural gas to get that electricity into the wires and to the plug for your electric car to use.
That said, I'm excited about the eventual prospects for batteries to store solar and wind-generated energy in an off-grid retirement home – mine! _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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" | Quote: | | Gassenheimer told Reuters that if the price of oil stays around $100 per barrel that a 50% reduction in battery cost would allow buyers of hybrid cars to break even in less than two years as opposed to the seven to eight years it takes to break even now. | "
Sshhh...don't let that get around. Thank you, Santa Monica, for being the leader. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Samsung and Bosch starts Lithium-Ion Battery Joint Venture:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12839
| Quote: | Ener1 CEO Charles Gassenheimer said in an interview, "We can cut the cost of the battery by 50 percent and I believe that can be passed onto the consumer. I also believe that we can bring down the break-even to less than two years, which would obviously be very favorable because that would be within the three-year lease that is a popular choice for American purchasers of automobiles."
Gassenheimer told Reuters that if the price of oil stays around $100 per barrel that a 50% reduction in battery cost would allow buyers of hybrid cars to break even in less than two years as opposed to the seven to eight years it takes to break even now.
Ener1 doesn't believe demand for lithium-ion batteries for the automotive industry will be a problem. Gassenheimer says that demand in Asia and Europe is off the charts. Demand from American automakers is reportedly low, but growing. A breakthrough from the University of Texas at Austin also promises significant reductions in the costs associated with lithium-ion batteries for the automotive industry. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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MIT Technology Review on EEStor's technology:
http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/21171/?nlid=1267&a=f
| Quote: | EEStor claims that its system, called an electrical energy storage unit (EESU), will have more than three times the energy density of the top lithium-ion batteries today. The company also says that the solid-state device will be safer and longer lasting, and will have the ability to recharge in less than five minutes. Toronto-based ZENN Motor, an EEStor investor and customer, says that it's developing an EESU-powered car with a top speed of 80 miles per hour and a 250-mile range. It hopes to launch the vehicle, which the company says will be inexpensive, in the fall of 2009.
But skepticism in the research community is high. At the EESU's core is a ceramic material consisting of a barium titanate powder that is coated with aluminum oxide and a type of glass material. At a materials-research conference earlier this year in San Francisco, it was asked whether such an energy-storage device was possible. "The response was not very positive," said one engineering professor who attended the conference.
Many have questioned EEStor's claims, pointing out that the high voltages needed to approach the targeted energy storage would cause the material to break down and the storage device to short out. There would be little tolerance for impurities or imprecision--something difficult to achieve in a high-volume manufacturing setting, skeptics say. |
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General Motors has partnered with Segway Inc scroll down
Segway on Board! New Dual EV Concept Vehicle Shown
General Motors has partnered with Segway Inc. to roll out a demonstrator that combines the Saturn Flextreme concept car built on GM's global E-flex electric drive architecture (debuted by Opel) with two onboard Segway PT personal mobility devices charged by the car's E-flex battery system. The Flextreme's FlexLoad cargo bay has been configured with ramps to accommodate loading and unloading of the Segways, which themselves have undergone compatibility redesign that includes optimization of tire diameter and track width and refitting with retractable handlebars to fit comfortably in the cargo area. Once fully charged (8 to 10 hours) by the E-flex system, the lithium-ion battery equipped Segway PTs can travel up to 24 miles at an electric power consumption rate of 0.052 kWh/mi (0.032 kWh/km).
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