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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:25 am Post subject: Latest ECRI Weekly Leading Index Readings |
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For some reason, the ECRI doesn't publish weekly press releases anymore on its Weekly Leading Index readings - although one can still get access to the weekly readings via a (free) registration.
For the week ending June 17, 2005, the Weekly Leading Index level is at 133.4 - a growth rate of 0.2% from last year. I will try to update this thread every week from now on.
Hope everyone is having a great Sunday!
Henry
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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It will be interesting to see next Friday's number. On another note it seems Buffett's comment about there not being a 'soft landing' has been misinterpreted. A lot of people have assumed he was talking about this economic cycle, more specifically this year. That was not the case:
| Quote: | Look first at the relevant paragraph in the letter, a section where Mr. Buffett is discussing U.S. trade deficits and debt problems:
I want to emphasize that even though our course is unwise, Americans will live better ten or twenty years from now than they do today. Per-capita wealth will increase. But our citizens will also be forced every year to ship a significant portion of their current production abroad merely to service the cost of our huge debtor position. It won’t be pleasant to work part of each day to pay for the over-consumption of your ancestors. I believe that at some point in the future U.S. workers and voters will find this annual “tribute” so onerous that there will be a severe political backlash. How that will play out in markets is impossible to predict – but to expect a “soft landing” seems like wishful thinking.
As usual, Mr. Buffett's point is strongly stated and clearly put. Trade and budget deficits are decades-old problems, and, as the statement suggests, may take decades to resolve. Unless our policy direction is changed, there will be an unpleasant ending. This is an issue that requires the use of the ballot box, particularly by young people.
Now consider the lead from a Reuters story on the letter:
Warren Buffett said on Thursday the U.S. economy may not enjoy a "soft landing" because Americans are taking on too much debt as the U.S. trade deficit worsens.
Because of the multi-year debate about the Fed tightening cycle, the "soft landing" phrase probably brings that association to mind for nearly all investors and most other readers as well. While most people are worried about what stocks will do next year -- or even next week -- that is certainly not the topic of Mr. Buffett's comment.
He is also not commenting on the Fed or the economy or current economic prospects. |
http://oldprof.typepad.com/a_dash_of_insight/2007/03/warren_buffett_.html |
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It's not about the economy--as an old saying, almost, goes. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys,
Just to clarify, the latest ECRI WLI reading uses numbers leading up to 2/23/07. We won't see the recent stock market action incorporated into the numbers until next Friday.
That being said, I think this reading will remain relatively strong - definitely not a hard landing.
Best regards,
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I think the fear was everywhere so pervasive that it just needed a catalyst for a little "fear enema." _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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So according to ECRI still no sign of a hard landing. Last year the consensus was that were headed for a 4-year low. If you'd googled 4-year cycle low the peak in articles written about it probably coincided with the June/July lows.
Now everyone's talking about subprime, a repricing of risk, and how weakness in housing is finally spreading to the consumer and the economy at large. The market has once again begun to price a rate cut in July, presumably on the expectation that there will be a hard landing.
My feeling is that prior to this week's drop, one of the reasons the market was struggling to break out of its November - February range was because there was no fear and that it was overbought. The percentage of stocks trading above their 20DMA on the S&P was above 80% until Tuesday. It's just very difficult for it to rally when it's that overbought. Now that number is 20%. So now there's a lot more fear and the S&P is short-term oversold. Perhaps it needs to get medium-term oversold (% of stocks above their 50DMA has dropped from >80% to 41% and it may need to get <20% as it did in June/July 2006), before we can start another leg up? |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Week ending 2/23/2007:
WLI = 140.30
Annual ROC = 3.2%
No revisions to last week's data. ECRI Future Inflation Gauge data (which is a monthly data point) will be released next week. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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Week ending 2/16/2007:
WLI = 139.3
Annual ROC = 3.4%
No revisions to last week's data. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Kirk: | Quote: | | The data I have says a turn-down like this in WLI is followed by a weaker quarter... which is the quarter we are now in. |
Interesting. Bernanke told us the Q4 data will be revised down to around 2.5%. Sounds like the economy is going through a soft patch. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: ECRI WLI vs GDP Growth - Chart for 2/16/07 |
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You're welcome Henry
Here is the chart for today's data
ECRI WLI vs GDP Growth - Chart for 2/16/07
http://www.investorhives.com/msgd.php?msg_id=378
It shows a pretty sharp turn down in WLI growth, not a blip...
I like what Lakshman calls it: "a Goldilocks economy with a soft spot."
The data I have says a turn-down like this in WLI is followed by a weaker quarter... which is the quarter we are now in... so maybe 2 to 3.4% rather than 3.5% GDP growth just as Q2-'05 only saw a slight slowing in GDP when the WLI turned down as shown on the graph.
Have a good weekend
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Kirk.
Following is the most recent press release from ECRI on their WLI - along with its latest readings:
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16-February-2007
NEW YORK, Feb 16 (Reuters) - A gauge of future U.S. economic growth dipped in the latest week on higher jobless claims and slower housing activity, while its annualized rate of growth also fell, a research group said on Friday.
The Economic Cycle Research Institute, an independent forecasting group, said its Weekly Leading Index fell to 138.9 in the week ending Feb. 9 from an upwardly revised 140.2 in the prior week.
Annualized growth rate fell to 3.5 percent from 4.3 percent in the previous period, also revised up.
"Though WLI growth has eased for two weeks it remains well above last August's low, indicating a positive U.S. growth outlook," said Lakshman Achuthan, managing director at ECRI.
"With the industrial slowdown continuing, it may be that near-term we will have a Goldilocks economy with a soft spot."
The fall in the index was partly offset by higher stock prices and lower interest rates, Achuthan said. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Week ending 2/2/2007:
WLI = 140.0
Annual ROC = 4.0%
Last week's WLI reading was revised from 140.2 to 140.1. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: ECRI Data |
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You're welcome Henry
I just posted the latest FIG data too
http://investment.suite101.com/blog.cfm/ecris_january_2007_fig_or
It has great news "U.S. inflation pressures fell in January due mainly to disinflationary moves in measures of jobs, home loans, interest rates and vendor performance."
Lower inflation means more money for consumers to spend so Taylor could be right.
I'll update the ECRI WLI chart tonight or tomorrow with this week's data and send it to you if you want to share it with your readers. I'm still trying to figure out how to show the FIG data with interest rates in a graphical form that makes sense. When I get that figured out, we can share it at our various web sites and newsletter for others to comment on.
I've been very impressed with ECRI and I believe Greenspan and now Bernanke used their data to stop raising rates when some wanted them to continue. Likewise, the WLI turned up some time ago so there was no pressure, as I saw it, for the Fed to cut rates to save the economy. As it turns out, the Fed and ECRI seem to have done very, very well.
Now what team needs to win Sunday for the market to go up?  _________________ Kirk out
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Kirk. I like the chart!
In other news, following is the latest reading for the period ending January 26, 2007:
Week ending 1/26/2007:
WLI = 140.2
Annual ROC = 4.7%
WLI growth now at a 51-week high. In our CFA LA Annual Forecast Dinner last night, John Taylor (of the "Taylor Rule") believes that consensus for a growth below trend this year is wrong and that the economy should grow "at trend" - i.e. he sees real GDP growth of 3% to 3.5% this year. Abby Joseph Cohen and Paul McCulley both disagree - with Mr. McCulley being slightly more bearish than Abby. Both of them say the economy will continue to grow this year, but below trend.
No revisions to last week's numbers. |
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